Friday, April 13, 2012

Pvp Wizard - build? - Page 2

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Frost damage crits freeze enemies. This has been confirmed. Unless exceptions are made to prevent Frost Ray critical hits from freezing enemies (diminishing returns, etc.), Frost Ray on high crit rate is going to be a disable machine.




I know that it has Konfeta, but this is what you don't know. Or anyone for that matter.

1) If cold slows in d3 as much as it did in d2

2) If freeze (cold crits) works in pvp

3) If cannot be frozen exists

4) if items or skills reduce slow duration/percentage

5) If there exists diminishing returns

6) if there are any caps on how often dot-machines like ROF can crit

7) When the universe implodes

So, speaking in absolutes is not a wise move. Though speculation is fine.|||Actually, I believe it was said somewhere that the "cannot be frozen" mod will not return in diablo 3.

Technically, we DO know when the universe implodes.|||Still, we do know that skills act differently in pvm than they do in pvp. A 100% stand still frozen isn't likely going to stay in pvm and pvp.|||Probably yeah. Either way, there will prolly be people who will eventually make up an imaginary set of rules where using items or skills that slow down a character immensly is considered BM.|||I really think that pvp wizard builds will invest at LEAST 4 skills in utility and just have a couple attack skills. The following three are pretty much imperative for any serious pvp build:

Diamond Skin

Teleport

Slow Time

Then you're probably going to want to seriously invest in one of the armors:

Ice Armor

Storm Armor

That's 4 already and the following utility hasn't even been considered yet:

Frost Nova

Mirror Image

Wave of Force

Energy Shield

Magic Weapon (what if this increases spell damage? Increases critical strike chance? Increases arcane power regeneration rate? Reduces cooldowns? With 5 skill runes the possibilities for this skill are pretty broad).

One thing's for sure, there are going to be a huge variety of pvp builds, and I really hope that dropping one skill for another isn't too costly or additive (think WoW respec costs) because I know I'm going to want to try every skill out thoroughly in PvM and PvP before I decided on a final build for each.


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Still, we do know that skills act differently in pvm than they do in pvp. A 100% stand still frozen isn't likely going to stay in pvm and pvp.




100% stand still freezing should work anywhere that stuns do. Remember weapons that deal elemental damage will have the same bonus critical effects as elemental skills themselves, which spreads out the effects to pretty much every class.|||Stuns would also change for pvp. Monsters get frozen / stunned. Chars go into FHR. D2 did it, and they said they're doing it again.|||Quote:








Stuns would also change for pvp. Monsters get frozen / stunned. Chars go into FHR. D2 did it, and they said they're doing it again.




So stuns & freeze should be taken out of the pvp scene while fear remains?

I don't think so. Please link the blue post / source saying that they are taking stuns out of D3 pvp?|||I didn't say taken out, I said act differently. They said that at Blizzcon, and unfortunately, I haven't book marked that video titled "when they said they change the way skills act in pvp just like d2 did".|||Quote:








I really think that pvp wizard builds will invest at LEAST 4 skills in utility and just have a couple attack skills. The following three are pretty much imperative for any serious pvp build:

Diamond Skin

Teleport

Slow Time

Then you're probably going to want to seriously invest in one of the armors:

Ice Armor

Storm Armor

That's 4 already and the following utility hasn't even been considered yet:

Frost Nova

Mirror Image

Wave of Force

Energy Shield

Magic Weapon (what if this increases spell damage? Increases critical strike chance? Increases arcane power regeneration rate? Reduces cooldowns? With 5 skill runes the possibilities for this skill are pretty broad).

One thing's for sure, there are going to be a huge variety of pvp builds, and I really hope that dropping one skill for another isn't too costly or additive (think WoW respec costs) because I know I'm going to want to try every skill out thoroughly in PvM and PvP before I decided on a final build for each.



100% stand still freezing should work anywhere that stuns do. Remember weapons that deal elemental damage will have the same bonus critical effects as elemental skills themselves, which spreads out the effects to pretty much every class.




hmm but only 3 skills can be maxed + storm/frost armors imho are useless for wizard|||Quote:








I really think that pvp wizard builds will invest at LEAST 4 skills in utility and just have a couple attack skills. The following three are pretty much imperative for any serious pvp build:

Diamond Skin

Teleport

Slow Time

Then you're probably going to want to seriously invest in one of the armors:

Ice Armor

Storm Armor

That's 4 already and the following utility hasn't even been considered yet:

Frost Nova

Mirror Image

Wave of Force

Energy Shield

Magic Weapon (what if this increases spell damage? Increases critical strike chance? Increases arcane power regeneration rate? Reduces cooldowns? With 5 skill runes the possibilities for this skill are pretty broad).

One thing's for sure, there are going to be a huge variety of pvp builds, and I really hope that dropping one skill for another isn't too costly or additive (think WoW respec costs) because I know I'm going to want to try every skill out thoroughly in PvM and PvP before I decided on a final build for each.



100% stand still freezing should work anywhere that stuns do. Remember weapons that deal elemental damage will have the same bonus critical effects as elemental skills themselves, which spreads out the effects to pretty much every class.




I think the Wiz would be fine with simply 1 AoE and one Projectile-Like spell..

Leaving the rest for utility/buffs. Traits kinda act as synergies now so there is no need to invest skillpoints in something you don't need.

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