Thursday, April 19, 2012

can't they get sued? - Page 2

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No you can't. Blizzard own the rights for game content, you are allowed to use it. If you make a guide you can say others can't copy that guide and release it as their own though, since it's your work.




you do own the right to the guide itself therefore you can sue an exact replica that didint have permission|||Quote:








oh and Knight_Wolf this wasnt Accusation i think everyone got this all wrong,like you see how Overlord said thx for gremlin and Dungeon keeper for giving them tons of idea for their game and it was based alots on these 2,i think that the most simply and classy way to do thing,i dont want them to get sued for that wiz,but seriously D&D created how RPG class work and alots other stuff in RPG,monster for example and im not talking about skeleton,zombie,vampire,kraken,etc...im talking about the one that were invented by them like the beholder,the mind flayer,Drider,etc..or the drow race and such like dragonkin




Sorry, everything is derived from something else, no human can create anything if he lived all his life in a black box .... they took inspiration from other sources to create their D&D lore .. and Blizz in turn used them as one of their sources of inspiration ... BIG DEAL .. that's how things work.


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anyway basicly is it that hard to say thx to them for creating such stuff...most spell like magic missile,stoneskin,mirror image,etc...would never been invented if not for them and geek that created the whole D&D..fireball is actually really different its been in history for a long time,the bible,alots of prophecy of old time mention fireball and myth about people being able to send lightning or fireball...probly because human saw these sometime and didint understand how a meteor can enter the earth atmosphere or lightning striking a house or forest for no reason,so its really different what i was talking about was unique spell that were created from the human imagination




Very very subjective .... every spell and magic we see in games is based on some lore or myth out there ... even if you make something slightly new it is still INSPIRED by something else ... and if you think mirror images and stone skin spells didn't exist in magic stories and lore before then you have my pity .. go read some books.


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oh and i doubt if you recreate an exact replica of the Mona Lisa and sell it you wont get any feedback from this btw its HIGHLY illegal to sell perfect replica because of the method it take to analyse a painting that old,and its not an altered copy of a caveman drawing sorry but the Mona lisa was not only highly technological for its time but also a masterpiece..seriously research the Mona lisa and its not for nothing that its so prized...and yes i do know what you mean by that but if that was the way it worked everyone would claim the technology of everyone else or the art or culture without even giving them credit for it




Copying the the Monalisa is something and copying a magic spell is something completely different ... and by the way .. you can replicate/redraw the Monalisa and sell it as long as it is labeled as a "replica" ... it's public art property ... nobody can stop you from doing that.

And there are already countless adaptions, reworks, re-imaginations for the Monalisa out there ... and nobody either can stop you from creating your own version of the Monalisa.






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and also if you mean altered in that many sense...then i could burn every game of blizz and i wouldnt actually be stealing them they would be altered since it wouldnt be an official cd,box,book of the game,common people are you all american or what?




LoL ... are serious, the game is the code itself, not the CD or the box .. these are just mediums .. did you know you can actually download digital copies from Blizz online shop .. either way that's completely irrelevant to the topic.


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is saying thx for something you didint create THAT hard?... seriously whats the point of making the human race advance and create new idea if we dont get credit for it or any kind of thx...why the hell do you think copyright exist?...even copyright is seriously a american biased concept of appurtenance of the rich and wealthy that want only to get richer




You have got to be kidding me .. what do you want exactly !!? ... if anyone who creates anything (movie, game, book) has to write some sort of "Thanks" for every inspiration to the things in the movie that list would be 10X longer than the movies/book/game itself .. get real.

If you don't know the difference between [ inspiration / adaptation / fan fiction ] then you are really oblivious to how things work in the movies/gaming/books industry.




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Don't you have any respect for gaming root?




So ?




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try to realise what im saying here...you invent something wouldnt you want a thank you for it or credit for it?




Nobody invented magic lore .. it exists since the dawn of history.|||Quote:








you do own the right to the guide itself therefore you can sue an exact replica that didint have permission




That's what I said... but in my previous quote you made it sound like (at least to me) that if you made a guide you can sue anyone who built their character according to it.|||Quote:








No you can't. Blizzard own the rights for game content, you are allowed to use it. If you make a guide you can say others can't copy that guide and release it as their own though, since it's your work.




didint makemrage say this?O_o

ok and knight_wolf seriously....idea dont come from everything around the world god were did you go to school? the power of thinking bring idea which then bring invention...thomas jefferson if i remember right,yes some idea were inspired by nature and other stuff but you have imagination that invented stuff also...the atom bomb is a freaking invention...not a good one but it was theory at first then they tried it and it created the weapon..most of our invention come from war you do know this?apparently not,apparently its when the humain brain is the most active therefore more efficient and give us stuff like the catapult,sword,masonry,mettalurgy,rocketry,etc.... and also without war...yeah Refrigeration was invented cause we've seen something similar /rolleye..oh and stainless steel yeah fish made that....god seriously what do they teach you in school?how to be dumb?you just lost all credit in 1 post..seriously i would have though you would have been smarter then this instead of just trying to act like a smartass 10 year old that basicly just want to be right...you didint even try to understand this post at all

seriously yeah i get how the gaming,music,movie industry work...they create crappy stuff still have the right to spread lie about it and people get ripped off and thats how the rich get richer and the poor stay poor and some middle class get poor...but what you will say its because of their own stupidity and not the propaganda that they spread...im guessing you never ever actually went to see what other country looked like or never actually went in place of your country that are poor...its their fault well thats basicly what you said in you're post

when i say a copy of mona lisa i mean a copy i dont mean your own version read...

also funny how you consider copying the mona lisa and copying something else different..yeah thats really smart...but wait you're against people copying game?what what??

and no not every spell in game were created from myth and legend...far from it myth were created by man...even when they had nothing to compare it to like a shadow or something...even today you have myth and legend that pop up...wayyy different but still....our imagination will always help us invent new stuff...even not based on reality we know...dream can bring new and original idea its been tested on children a long time ago bro..most adult tend to mix reality in their dream because of their knowledge maybe thats why you're so....unimaginative

and the fact that you dont respect any inventor just show you should get dropped in a poor country just to....have "fun" and clear your mind a bit and realise how lucky you are to have these invention at your disposal...god i hate spoiled brat that dont recognise other people achievement and respect them...oh and talking about respect....if everyone would think like you basicly i take whatever i want then?sooo...i dont respect you i can rape and kill your familly and you..steal your car and everything you have cause...i dont respect you?...that just make no sense like stealing any idea or technology because you dont respect any root of it

i doubt people that get game illegaly respect the creator of the game either...just saying how it work in you're beautifull world of "freedom"

and this "Nobody invented magic lore .. it exists since the dawn of history."....i simply dont get.....im talking about spell that were created by D&D...not really the entire magic concept

anyway i guess nobody understood or really want to understand what im saying...or maybe people dont respect much these days i guess unless it affect them...so might as well close this post it will just lead to more misunderstanding and flaming and hatred from kid with anger management problem...do i sound that provocative?cause this was actually an attempt as a respecful talk about how the wiz just look exactly like a wiz in D&D and guess nobody actually respect D&D just like doom,simcity,etc..any root basicly /cry even i was getting agressive if you read a bit higher O_o i had such good intention lol ;_; oh well

edit:love the way people say i need to read more when apparently they are the one lacking simple knowledge i said the spell they invented...reread my damn post omg|||this doesn't have any point. Blizzard can't get sued, those spells were invented before D&D (maybe you should read more), and I was trying to duplicate the mona lisa in my house, so I thank you all.



Make love no warcraft|||Psycho, don't get mad, if this makes you feel better, I'll put an altar in my bedroom full of D&D stuff. Seriously, I don't think that anyone in here (a forum about a game) wants to hear about how life is outside of the US or analogies with raping our families, I think that the main point of those who aren't agree with you, is that it's too dificult to find the roots of the wizard concept, and so, it looses sence to claim for them.

Also -correct me if I'm wrong- D&D uses halflings, which in fact are hobbits. Would anyone like to see D&D sued for using small people? Would anyone like to see Blizzard sued because of using a girl slowing time?.

Also, sorry for my ortography. PS: I did went to shool|||Quote:








didint makemrage say this?O_o




Yes he did, you just quoted me out of context, I explained it earlier.|||Sorry if I was a bit agressive on you Psyco. But the title of your thread made it look like another troll topic which get the snappy comments out of me.

I do disgree with you about human innovation. Everything people create was already in the universe.

Nukes=super nova

Sword=animal claws

guns=bow and arrow=porcupines

Humans might take those things (that are already there) and "improve" them for thier needs (or pleasure).|||He has a point though. Inspiration is one thing, but they directly copied some spells. Don't you usually at least change the name?|||And I explained that there are certain magic spells that are so much a part of fantasy that they can't be copyrighted. Okay, so Ray of Frost and Acid Splash were copied, but things like Teleport and Magic Missile and Fireball are owned by no one. They really were trying to invoke the feel of a DnD Wizard. It's an homage, not a ripoff.

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