Saturday, April 21, 2012

wizard out of place in diablo universe? - Page 4

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Meh, I could buy it if MAYBE if they said 40 years. I'm aware of the massive differences between the sate of our civilization as opposed to humans in Sanctuary, but one generation just doesnt forget that quickly. It's also a bit iffy to expect people to assume that every bit of evidence that demons walked the earth somehow just got buried. If humanity is having this much trouble in the complete absence of demons, it doesnt make sense that they survived up to this point anyway.




Again, the Powers That Be have spoken. So, that's that from a lore standpoint.




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Ok, I guess you're suggesting that Blizzard still has time to show the darker side to the game. We'll see, but based on everything blizzard has said in response to the complaints... well, wouldnt they say "just wait until the later parts of the game" if they were planning on addressing those concerns?




Because a lot of the complainers at the time were calling for a lot more blacks/browns, shadows and graininess. These won't be happening for the reasons Blizzard already mentioned.


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Ok, I'm sorry but the only remotely relevant point you brought up was the middle one. The other 2 have nothing to do with the atmosphere. Who was asking for more detail? As for monsters to be quickly spotted and instantly recognizable, it STILL doesnt speak for the general lack of the dark feeling from Diablo I that people are asking for. A silhouette and a shape is more than enough to accomplish that, and that's not even what they would have to settle for.




Well, how do you propose to make things 'darker'/creepier? More often than not, that means adding more details and features, which in turn increases the workload and resources needed to run the game. I suggest you search for the art debate. A lot, if not all of these points, on both sides of the argument, were already covered there.|||Quote:








I think the Wizard being Asian was an accident on Blizzard's part; i.e. they didn't start with the intention on creating an Asian character but rather that it was the best fit.

If you look at the Wizard's original concept art, you will notice that the Wizard looks more Romani and less grandiose in style with her braided hair, 'hippie' headband and tassels. When you listen to the Wizard's development, they started with the play style concept rather than personality.

Then, as they started filling out the back story, they probably realized that the Wizard's defining traits as a character were that she was young, arrogant, vain and most importantly, an outsider in a foreign land. This is most effectively conveyed visually by making the character a young Asian dressed in fine clothing. I mean, just by looking at the in-game model, you already get a rough idea of who she is in the Diablo setting. She stands out and doesn't fit in but unlike the Witch Doctor and Barbarian, it's not in a savage way. She probably considers herself as sophisticated and worldly as those around her, if not more than.




Sadly Asians and wizard do not fit for me well together, it is sad that blizzard abandon this old concepts arts as they look really good.

It is problem with stereotype, Knights and Wizards belong to europe like Ninjas, Samurais and old different martial arts belong to Asians.

If they wanted to create Asian mage i think they could found in Asian culture well fitting names for it.


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Erm... what? Looks pretty purple to me.







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This isn't Earth, it's Sanctuary. For all we know Asians may have become a central part of that world since the end of D2. Besides it's not like we visited all of Sanctuary in D1 and D2, and that the middle eastern people are just now making contact with the Asians.




This isn't Earth, it's Sanctuary and for all we know cats and dogs are living together, people ride hover bikes and Sanctuary's favorite candy bar is golden grahams.

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This isn't Earth, it's Sanctuary and for all we know cats and dogs are living together, people ride hover bikes and Sanctuary's favorite candy bar is golden grahams.

Your argument sucks




At least he does have an argument .. you have provided nothing other than bashing and bad sarcasm.

Sanctuary isn't earth but it clearly mimics it when it comes to its civilizations and cultures ... so there is no freaking reason why an Asian-esque culture can't exist in Sanctuary if a Mayan jungle culture and an Arabian/middle eastern culture were both presented in D2 and fit just right .... unless you have something against Asians or something there is entirely no argument whatsoever or of any kind against this addition. |||Quote:








At least he does have an argument .. you have provided nothing other than bashing and bad sarcasm.

Sanctuary isn't earth but it clearly mimics it when it comes to its civilizations and cultures ... so there is no freaking reason why an Asian-esque culture can't exist in Sanctuary if a Mayan jungle culture and an Arabian/middle eastern culture were both presented in D2 and fit just right .... unless you have something against Asians or something there is entirely no argument whatsoever or of any kind against this addition.




ok, i guess when I meet a preaching neonazi (on the internet or in real life) ill just ignore him, because all ill be doing is bashing bad arguments with "bad" sarcasm, clearly ignoring him would be the right thing to do.

Frankly I find your criticism quite poignant. |||I agree with lazylink's first post.

Why can't the paladin be black? He freaking lives in a jungle which in our world would probably be right on the equator. Sunlight much? Also, how do you know the wizard doesn't live in some place where people naturally don't tan...|||According to the lore, the Wizard hails from Xiansai, which is located at the north-eastern corner of the world map.|||The Wizard is suppose to be out of place.|||Quote:








All I have to say is...

$34.50




LOL, that was from Russel Peters stand-up sketch right?|||This is the dumbest discussion I've seen so far. That the Diablo Universe is mainly inspired in western europe doesn't mean that it has to stay there. How would you explain kurast? or all the asian weapons in the game? It's seems that if the culture diversity makes the game better it's all fine with it... but if we put someone who isn't caucasic -or black- we make a f***ng mess.

d1 sorcerer and weapons

d2 sorceress, palandin, lut golein, kurast, hell, weapons, and all the characters and npcs from those cities...

Oh and also, where the hell do you think that blizzard take ghouls, for instance? From "western europe"?, or in fact, do you think that the idea of heaven and hell was created in england or in the usa? You got to be kidding.

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