Saturday, April 21, 2012

Mirror image awesome?

Looking at the video it seems the images attack, most people speculated about wether they did damage, which in my opinion isnt whats important. Whats important is that in pvp the enemy wont know whos the real one and it doesnt stop you from attacking him while he wastes his time with the copies; unlike the amazon skill which forced you to stay put or he would know who was real instantly. Thus if the images all copy the current attack that your char uses they will be awesome, if each attacks in a different way it would make it easier to decide which was the real one ( one using arcane, one using frost nova and one using electrocute...not so difficult to guess no?). Doesnt someone see their potential in pvp if they copy your attack at the same time?|||AoE attacks.|||Hopefully, the images can will replicate the real image's spells and attacks ( but does 0 damage ) It'll confuse other people so much. Would be nice if you can give them commands too|||I did just have a look at the wizard trailer. She does use mirror image there. In the current implementation though you can clearly see, which are the mirror images and which is the real wizard. The mirror images are slightly transparent. Unless this changes, there might still be a slight advantage in PvP, but its possibly negelectable, unless the opponent loses his target focus when the wizard casts "Mirror image".

The mirror images actually replicate both the casting animation of the wizard body as a whole, as well as the spell animation. Whether those spells cast from the mirror images do damage or not, is not something i could decern through watching the wizard gameplay video.

Between, the video i watched is the Wizard trailer on the official Diablo III site.|||Maybe for AoE, the images will spread out a lot, so the PvPer would have to pick one if casting a spell like meteor. Or, maybe they will all be animated to look chilled, hurt, stunned, etc.|||Quote:








I did just have a look at the wizard trailer. She does use mirror image there. In the current implementation though you can clearly see, which are the mirror images and which is the real wizard. The mirror images are slightly transparent.




That might just be for the player, though. So you don't get confused as to which avatar is the real wizard. When you cast Hallucinations in SC, the units were all blue and obviously not real units, but they looked like normal units to your opponent.

I wonder if, when MI is cast, your position in relation to mirror images is fixed. From the image in the wiki, it looks like they form a ring, with your character as a part of the ring. It would make sense if it was randomized so sometimes your character was at 4 o'clock (if you think of the ring as a clock) or at 9 o'clock. If you were always at the 12 o'clock that would hurt the deception factor in PvP.

For that matter, I wonder what happens when you teleport with mirror images. Do they poof, do they follow you? Hmm I just had a thought, it would be cool if teleporting caused your mirror images to teleport off screen in random directions before poofing. Major misdirection.|||Quote:








That might just be for the player, though. So you don't get confused as to which avatar is the real wizard. When you cast Hallucinations in SC, the units were all blue and obviously not real units, but they looked like normal units to your opponent.




Good point.|||Unless they intend to use MI as a defense mechanism like Baldur's Gate, the skill must not be overpowered and have to be balanced.

As seen in the video, the images actually cast spells and attack.

I believed the skill is still under progress?|||I usually play Undead or Night Elf in War3 TFT, and those pisky Blade Masters always bother me with the Mirror Image trick. However, they can't use other abilities so they can only attack. Yeah it sucks to fight, and sometimes it'll screw you up, however the majority of the time You can single the real one out in a matter of seconds and then focus fire on him. You can single them out by; seeing the damage each one is dealing, which ones are playing like a human and aren't instantly running straight towards your characters, and which ones are using some strategy to get the most damage to you until times up. Pretty much, yeah it's a nifity little trick, but it's not impossible to counter. It's an escape plan or a 3 second delay of damage.

PS- all IMO, granted this is Diablo and not an RTS, the same strategy is involved with single units.|||Quote:








I usually play Undead or Night Elf in War3 TFT, and those pisky Blade Masters always bother me with the Mirror Image trick. However, they can't use other abilities so they can only attack. Yeah it sucks to fight, and sometimes it'll screw you up, however the majority of the time You can single the real one out in a matter of seconds and then focus fire on him. You can single them out by; seeing the damage each one is dealing, which ones are playing like a human and aren't instantly running straight towards your characters, and which ones are using some strategy to get the most damage to you until times up. Pretty much, yeah it's a nifity little trick, but it's not impossible to counter. It's an escape plan or a 3 second delay of damage.

PS- all IMO, granted this is Diablo and not an RTS, the same strategy is involved with single units.






Hahaha ... i understand how you felt, those mirror images always frustrated me, but the fact they don't do damage and that you could find out which one is real ( by seeing which one is doing actual damage if each one is attacking a diff target or by tracking the critical attack red text ) kinda made it balanced.

A very good escape and distraction would be casting your images then instantly casting invisibility, let the enemy try hard to find out which one is real while you stand still laughing until your mana recharges or you escape far away.

As for how this could be used in D3, if there is some way to go invisible it would make a very nice escape method that saves your neck from tight spots ( since if you try to escape while visible you will be spotted instantly ), only if you can go invisible for few seconds, bring up a potion or two to refill you HP and MP, while the other player wastes his energy attacking fake images then you lunch a surprise attack against him before your invisibility wears off ( of course once you attack the invisibility is canceled )

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