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hmm but only 3 skills can be maxed + storm/frost armors imho are useless for wizard
Well its 2-4 depending on how high the skill cap (15 or 20) and the number of bonus points you get and if your willing to give up skills or not.|||Quote:
hmm but only 3 skills can be maxed + storm/frost armors imho are useless for wizard
What?
We haven't seen any skill information about either of the armors, and you've already decided they are useless???
Useless skills have no place in the D3 skill system paradigm.|||Yep usefulness of skills is unknown the only thing that you can say is your want 10-20 skill points in your main skills and most likely 2-4 in your sub-skills.|||naw, main skills need to be maxed out in PVP so either 15 or 20 whatever the max is. by main skills i mean primary attack and AoE attack. the rest of the points would be spread among auxiliary (slow time) and defensive (ice/storm armor, familiar, mirrow image, diamond skin, teleport) depending on how good they are|||Quote:
What?
We haven't seen any skill information about either of the armors, and you've already decided they are useless???
Useless skills have no place in the D3 skill system paradigm.
Sorry to dissapoint u, but Jay already explained : some skills are more usefull
for pvp, some are less usefull.
And we actually did - storm armor deals minor lightning damage, and frost armor at the moment is removed if i remember correctly, but obviously will be similar to d2 one. Obviously, investing points in both spells is huge waste for pvp, they can be 1 point wonders for slow/stun/freeze enemy.
So, are u going to sacrifice skill points for minor armor increase which u can invest in to attack spells/teleport and try to tank a barb/monk in melee?
Well u can try, but this will not work well|||Quote:
Sorry to dissapoint u, but Jay already explained : some skills are more usefull
for pvp, some are less usefull.
And we actually did - storm armor deals minor lightning damage, and frost armor at the moment is removed if i remember correctly, but obviously will be similar to d2 one. Obviously, investing points in both spells is huge waste for pvp, they can be 1 point wonders for slow/stun/freeze enemy.
So, are u going to sacrifice skill points for minor armor increase which u can invest in to attack spells/teleport and try to tank a barb/monk in melee?
Well u can try, but this will not work well
Wrong. We have not seen any frost armor or storm armor in any of the game play videos or Blizzcon demos. You need to stop making decisions about what is and is not going to work in a game that isn't even close to being finalized yet.
"Obviously" - this word does not mean what you think it means. For something to be obvious it needs to be easily observable. The final product isn't even in beta let alone released to the general public so there is nothing obvious about it. Everything we are talking about is conjecture. I find your guess that the Wizard armors will be worthless to be ludicrous. I guarantee that storm armor will be more than simply "minor lightning damage".
Edit: Even if storm armor is just "minor lightning damage", you do realize that crits from lightning spells stun right? A lightning sorc with storm armor, electrocute, and lightning hydra with a focus on precision gear could be phenomenal in pvp. Obviously!|||I see no reason why a melee Wizard wouldn't want a high level Storm or Frozen Armor.|||Quote:
I see no reason why a melee Wizard wouldn't want a high level Storm or Frozen Armor.
the reason is - melee wizard will not work in pvp. Well u can go pvp with w/e build u want.
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Wrong. We have not seen any frost armor or storm armor in any of the game play videos or Blizzcon demos. You need to stop making decisions about what is and is not going to work in a game that isn't even close to being finalized yet.
"Obviously" - this word does not mean what you think it means. For something to be obvious it needs to be easily observable. The final product isn't even in beta let alone released to the general public so there is nothing obvious about it. Everything we are talking about is conjecture. I find your guess that the Wizard armors will be worthless to be ludicrous. I guarantee that storm armor will be more than simply "minor lightning damage".
Edit: Even if storm armor is just "minor lightning damage", you do realize that crits from lightning spells stun right? A lightning sorc with storm armor, electrocute, and lightning hydra with a focus on precision gear could be phenomenal in pvp. Obviously!
As i already said, one point in storm armor is enough for stunning. U dont need to invest points if u only want control effect from crits. Just tell me, do u really believe there is any chance for wizard to tank barb in melee? And please, dont forget this thread after release.|||Quote:
the reason is - melee wizard will not work in pvp. Well u can go pvp with w/e build u want.
You don't know that.|||Quote:
You don't know that.
i brought some arguments actually, if u didnt notice
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