to add to slevinn and others comments, i think he could do with a slight alteration. they have nearly got him right, perhaps slightly too feminine. he does need to look young though, so hes near enough there. i agree totally with lyrs comments regarding his posture etc.|||The face is pretty good. However, the body needs some fixing. For instance, the metallic breastplate that he wears seems to be tightly wrapped around his chest. Now, if it was a tunic or some other clothwear, it would be fine. However, armor should always have some thickness to it.|||Interesting how much better/more mature the debate about this is in this thread, than on the main page.
As for the look, I may be reading too much into this, but I've come to think it's anime-inspired. Compare to the 2 leads in Death Note, one of the most popular anime of recent years.
We can't see the male wizard's hair thanks to his hat, but if he's got one of those unruly, finger-combed across the forehead looks that have become popular in the tween set, it'll be an interesting development.
Note that while the leads in Death Note are very meterosexual in their look, and are cerebral, they're very strong characters, wielding power and influence and charisma galore. They just do it while looking pretty and clean-shaven. It's sort of a new paradigm of male manliness?
On the other hand, I'm not sure how that really differs from the pretty, non-threatening, androgynous type of male that young girls and immature women constantly fall for. There's a stage of female sexual development when manly-looking men are threatening or over their heads, and they want man-boys, who look safe and sensitive and pretty, without being dangerous. See the look of every boy band in the last 3 decades, every popular male star from any Disney or Nickelodeon show, etc.
|||i see what you mean flux, but the target is generally young males in relation to diablo 3. hence, i dont think 13 year olds want justin bieber running around the screen. having said that, if i had my way... he wouldnt be on the planet either.
so if this is the look they have gone for, they must be out of the their minds..
flux do you give a personal opinion on the appearance? if so what is it?|||I'm a fairly masculine dude, and I like playing fairly masculine characters in games. The Barbarian is obviously going to be my first class. However, it's nice to have the option of playing different character types. The male Wiz has a different role to play lore-wise and in combat, and it's reflected in his design. He's a pretty boy, a metrosexual, and he's obviously inspired by the Asian archetypal popstar that you find in Japan, Korea or China. It's cool and more interesting to have that spectrum of character types to play. I like it.
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The male Wiz has a different role to play lore-wise and in combat, and it's reflected in his design. He's a pretty boy, a metrosexual, and he's obviously inspired by the Asian archetypal popstar that you find in Japan, Korea or China.
I haven't seen anyone consider this from a purely marketing perspective, but we all know how popular Bliz games are in Korea. D2 was, SC and WoW certainly were. Japan and China and the rest of the region as well, which makes them putting in one asian male character with a look that's currently popular and trendy for men in those regions a fairly smart bet.
I always play a lot of mage characters; the faster and more precise the magery required, the better I like it. I hadn't really thought about the gender of my wizard, but I like asian girls (in RL and digitally) so would probably have gone with the female wiz. However, after all this male wizard controversy and complaint, I might wind up playing him instead. He's almost become the underdog now, like in the game fiction I idly craft in my head for my character, he'll have a little Joe Peshi in Goodfellas chip on his shoulder.|||I think the girls' developmental stage you're talking about, Flux, is from age 5 to 80. It certainly seemed to linger all throughout my miserable high school years. Had I have known about the social powers of purple pants, I would have bought a pair. Well, maybe not, actually. Or at least asked for a pair for Christmas since I think buying clothes is forbidden. Ah well, time to drink wine on my lonely kitchen table.|||Quote:
I think the girls' developmental stage you're talking about, Flux, is from age 5 to 80.
Not to get all sociological or delve deeply into a discussion of gender preferences and sexual identity, since that's the sort of thing I do on my own time... but yes, some women never really outgrow that preference. Everyone varies in their desires, after all, and there's no real rhyme or reason to it. I've never found blonde bimbos attractive, and yet most guys seem to worship whoever the latest incarnation of Pam Anderson, Britney Spears, Jessica Simpson, etc.
In my observation, most pre-pubescent females obsess over boys, and usually they like older boys who look young and clean and sensitive. Many women don't outgrow that until they exit their teens. Some women never outgrow it. Witness the Legolas/Frodo fangirls during the heyday of the LotR movies. Even Boromir was fairly lusted after, but if the older and frequently-stubbly Aragorn got fangirls, I didn't hear about it at the time. I'm referring to the actors of course, but you know what I mean.
Many women do, though. I've had a fair number of female friends or GFs during the past oh, 10-12 years, and when conversation eventually turned to this issue, none of them had any real interest in pretty boys of the male wizard's type. (This includes one woman who was 21 when we met, a few years ago, so she was squarely in the younger age range.)
They all liked and usually preferred men with chest hair and other manly features. That's not to say they couldn't appreciate a Zach Elfron type, or a sparkly vampire, but it was just as eye candy; not as someone they wanted in their real life.|||@ Flux
You are VERY correct. Most women AND men would prefer a normal looking/ someone close to their attractiveness level, than someone who's a rock/popstar. These idols are very appealing to look at, but when it comes a potential life-long partner, most will choose an average person.
Past psychological studies indicate this as well. I would give you guys the experiment name and who's done it, but I'm to lazy to scan through my books right now.
But anyway, the study observed and surveyed a participants at a party. Later, the people were surveyed.
1) Most people said they had fun dancing with a very attractive individual and rated their dancing partners attractiveness.
HOWEVER
2) Those paired with someone attractive, when asked about a life long partner, said they would rather choose someone of average attractiveness. OR, someone who they feel who has about the same attractiveness level as theirs.
Of course, average attractiveness varies between cultures. Hairy men aren't the avg in every country :P
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